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  • Michael Smith
    Michael Smith
    Posted: 20 Dec 2018 16:03

    What a moron or morons whether political, environmental or just plain stupid although sounds a bit more sophisticated than that giving the authorities such a run around.  


  • Charles Pritchard
    Charles Pritchard
    Posted: 20 Dec 2018 19:54
    Edited: 20 Dec 2018 21:03

    The Authorities are abysmal. 100 blokes with 12 bores ,or rifles, could destroy them. And the perpetrators if accessible.. 24 hours of nothingness. Wet. Incompetent. Pre-planning ?? nowhere in sight. Ashamed to be British.

    And that Chris Grayling , at the top of a fiasco again. Just GO ! .



  • Michael Smith
    Michael Smith
    Posted: 20 Dec 2018 21:42
    Edited: 20 Dec 2018 21:45
    Charles Pritchard: Yes, gone on for too long now and why were the army with their specialist equipment not called in much earlier. Utter shambles and worryingly could be a test for further attacks at other airports now that the authorities have demonstrated their tardiness and ineptness in getting to grips with such a situation. As you say it's shameful.

  • Michael Smith
    Michael Smith
    Posted: 21 Dec 2018 09:04
    Edited: 21 Dec 2018 09:07
    Someone came up with a good idea this morning - why not strategically place drones around the airfield so they can follow the rogue back to base or simply take it out.
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    Mike Huffington
    Mike Huffington
    Posted: 22 Dec 2018 11:09

    Oh dear, the hang 'em high crowd are out. The first time this has happened in the World as I am aware and you expect an instant response.  Lets face it, it would take around 5-10 hours to realise this was orchestrated.  The Government has to then convene and order a military response.  I don't know where this kit is based but then a team has to be got together and the thing driven down.  As for shooting things down, you have to consider the collateral damage and the potential for FOD on the airfields.

    I am surprised it was done this quickly, but if you want to fire cheap political shots go ahead, but frankly all you have done is demonstrate a Daily Mail level of common sense.


  • Peter Holt
    Peter Holt
    Posted: 23 Dec 2018 08:41

    We narrowly escaped this, having just got back to Gatwick. I even bought backup tickets to Luton (which has an easy train to Gatwick to collect the car) for just under £100...

    I have a good contact in the drone business and apparently the airports simply didn't buy the stuff they now see they will need. So there will be rapid changes. There are vast numbers of solutions to this.

    The present UK law which allows a drone to fly within 1000m of the airport boundary is too lax. It means the time to respond to a threat is too short. It should be something like 5000m.

    The main issue with shooting is that hitting a drone with a rifle is almost impossible if it is moving about. At say 500m a relatively skilled shooter with a 7.62 can do a 10cm group, but with a moving target you can forget it. And a shotgun is not effective past 50-100m.

    The drones can be fully preprogrammed to fly out, buzz around and fly back, so there is no signal to jam. A very powerful directional tracker/jammer could suppress the electronics but those things cost 6 figures plus.


  • Peter Holt
    Peter Holt
    Posted: 23 Dec 2018 08:44
    In the Gatwick case, the drone flyer was monitoring the airport comms so he could see when it was re-opening. He could also see when the only one helicopter available with a thermal camera (!!) was refuelling... the helicopter had its transponder on and was easily tracked via public aircraft tracking sites.

  • Charles Pritchard
    Charles Pritchard
    Posted: 23 Dec 2018 19:07

    Mike Huffington: They have had 2-3-4 years to prepare for just this eventuality. It has happened already elsewhere. There has been complacency and burying of the directorial heads in the sand at both Governnment and Company level. That is clear and is why I feel so angry and dismayed.

    In terms related to this chatsite.....you know there will be avalanches so you get the kit to minimise them and train to find victims. Failure to do so puts you in Court.